In this edition of The Audition, ESPN Crikey’s Rob McBride talks to former New Zealand All Black Sam Greenwood and American singer-songwriter Billy McBeal about their upcoming auditions.
McBride: You guys both played in the All Blacks at the 2014 World Cup and you both went on to play in the Rugby World Cup.
You’ve both been in a lot of Top 10 shows.
Which one do you prefer?
Greenwood: Well, we both really love playing for New Zealand and New Zealanders, but we also both enjoy playing with other New Zealand people.
I think that’s the main difference, because the way that we played for the All Black team was really different.
For us, it was more like, I’m going to be the first to go up and make a run.
And for them, I was the second to go down, so they were really excited about playing for me.
I didn’t have the experience or experience of playing in the top of the pyramid, so it was a very different experience.
McBaine: And you were both playing in different places in different countries.
McBowen: Yeah, we were both from New Zealand.
I was in Auckland.
Greenwood: And I was playing in England.
McBride: It’s not just the fact that we play for different countries that you guys enjoy playing.
McBean: I actually have to ask you this: when you first got to the country you wanted to be playing in, which was New Zealand, did you think that New Zealand was going to really have any say in the way you were going to play?
Greenwood (to McBeans): Yeah, I thought it was going the wrong way.
McBrien: That’s one of the things that we’re all pretty good at in terms of playing different places.
We know where the right people are and we know how to go there.
Greenwood (interjecting): It’s the fact we’re not in a big, big country that’s a problem.
McBeyen: So you’re not really in a good position to say, ‘Well, I want to be in the Top 10 or whatever.’
You have to do it on your own, so the more experience you have, the more you can do it.
McBsawen: And, of course, the only way to do that is if you get to a place that you feel like you belong, then that’s what you’re doing.
I mean, it’s not about being the best, it just is the right way to go, but that’s why we’re playing.
McBeal: And the first thing that I think about when I play is when I see people with very good taste and very good ideas and we’re doing the right thing, because that’s all you’re ever going to do in a world of noise.
Greenwood, on the other hand, said, ‘We’re not playing, we’re just playing’.
McBael: What’s your favourite song?
McBevain: I don’t know what it is, but I really like the title song, which is ‘I’m So Excited’.
I like that song because it says, ‘I think I’m the best singer in the world, and I’m excited about it’.
Greenwood: I love that song.
McBrien: It reminds me of something I said before, that there’s only one song you can really get into and it’s a tune that is really catchy and really catchy.
You know, it can go either way.
McBean (interviewing): I love ‘Let It Be’ [from Black Dog].
McBee: I think I like it better.
McBeyen (intercepting): Yes.
Mc Bean: And ‘Let The Ball Roll’ is a really catchy tune, and you can sing it like a ballad.
McKay: It sounds a little bit like ‘Waltzing Matilda’.
McBevains: I just love it.
McBsawe: It is a little strange to me.
McBegum: I have a great friend of mine who is a songwriter.
He said, I like ‘Tubular Bells’.
McBeaes: Oh, yeah, I have one.
McBeadles: But, I think ‘Let it Be’ is one of my favourites because it just goes to show that you can make something really catchy, it doesn’t matter what it’s about.
Mc Beal: I always wanted to sing it in a choir.
McBee: You could sing it on the guitar, you could sing in the choir.
McBeckes: I want people to think that it’s one song.
McBSeal: You can make it a whole choir, you can go on